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 Post subject: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: February 18th, 2018, 10:11 am 
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Hi Pete,

I used MCM to build .nfo files for my shared KODI library. Updated to 2.18.4718.633 yesterday, and the first move added to the library since (Blade Runner 2049) seems to have a problem with actor thumbnails. I'm set to download thumbnails, and I post process the nfo files to change the links to point to a folder in my shared library. Since yesterday, instead of an actor thumbnail link to a local drive, the thumbnail link is https: to tmdb. Don't know if the thumbnails are still being downloaded and the link is wrong however. Any ideas please?

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Mark W.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: February 18th, 2018, 11:32 am 
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Per the changelog (issues #1806 and #780), the thumbnail image URL from metadata is now stored as the actor thumbnail, when available. Kodi prefers image URLs for thumbs (and if you export from Kodi, it will dump image URLs back to the .nfo).

These change should actually subvert your need to handle anything in post-processing for actor thumbnails. Kodi will read the image URL and fetch the image into its internal artwork cache the same as if it were a local filename.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: February 18th, 2018, 2:56 pm 
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Thanks for the quick response Pete.

The ability to have a "local" (i.e. on site) cache of actor thumbnails is now irrelevant as all actor thumbnails have to be fetched from the internet, is that correct please? I was trying to avoid KODI reaching out to the internet by using nfo files and MCM... :(

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PostPosted: February 18th, 2018, 3:38 pm 
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Kodi connects to the internet all the time for various subservices. I could add yet another setting in Media Center Master to disable this new behavior (or you could adjust your post-processing script as the MCM-downloaded thumbnails are still there), but... is it really that valuable of a request?

I am sorry the new behavior inconveniences you, but I'm skeptical that it's a large inconvenience right now. If you disagree, I'm more than receptive to hear your case.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: February 19th, 2018, 3:08 pm 
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Fair enough, not a real issue it doesn't seem. Each on my KODI boxes is presumably now caching the thumbnails from the internet rather than my local NAS box. Thanks for your.

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Mark W.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: March 24th, 2018, 6:57 am 
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Cool, so now I don't have to host my own artwork on my own web server for plex. Great!

Question - How do I get 1000 existing NFOs updated with the new <thumb> URL pointing to TMDB?

1) I changed my configuration under Settings -> to remove my share folder hosted on my web server. I see after saving the URL changes itself to C:\ProgramData\MediaBrowser\etc... If I do a simple Fetch Metadata, the <thumb> URL gets updated to the C:\ProgramData URL. Bummer, was hoping it would pull the TMDB link for all my existing movies that I've already taken the time to tag with MCM.

I thought I would be clever and write a script to strip just all existing <thumb> links in existing NFOs, and then Fetch Metadata - alas still the local C:\.... <thumb> reference :(

So the only way I see to do it is to use the "Clear Out Metadata" option so it removes the NFO and XML, then Fetch Metadata....which means I basically have to allow it rescan every title and I've gotta sit here and confirm movies, etc = time consuming just to get the URLs updated. This, of course, is only a problem for existing, not new. Please tell me there's a better way where MCM will go out and "fetch" while using my existing Metadata (NFOs) so the URL gets updated, and I don't have to sit here and select which movie it is, or enter IMDB, etc. (I've already done that, would prefer not to do it again)

If it can't be changed to "easily" update the <thumb> URL without forcing users to ditch all of the work they've already done with their NFOs and XMLs, an option to NOT be forced to use the TMDB link, and retain their current configuration would be nice. I'm sure there are users that have been using MCM for years, have their processes for managing their Cast Artwork and updating their NFOs and XMLs, and have 100's and 100's of already existing files that they'd rather not go back and manually update again. Giving them the option of which process they want to use seems reasonable. I personally would just like a way for MCM to overwrite the <thumb> URL on existing NFOs (with the TMDB link) without having to rescrape entriely. I'd rather not host all of my own artwork, so I welcome this change...just not the effort I'd have to put into this to get all of my media using the same method.

2) If you're going to force the <thumb> link in the NFO and XML now, why even bother storing the images locally, or giving the user a choice to store them somewhere else? Unless the user goes in and post processes to update the <thumb> in each of their NFOs, that image that is pulled down will never be used. Just wasted space on their system in my opinion - AND an unnecessary step for MCM now too which could speed up the process (not that pulling down artwork takes a lot of time, but it's a step nonetheless). Just change it to get the link and not download the artwork anymore for the <thumb>.

3) Any chance you're going to implement this for TV Shows? That would be great!

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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: May 20th, 2020, 4:50 am 
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Hi Pete,

Sorry to return to an old topic, however I've come across a challenge created by the non-local storage of thumbnails where the images linked to are no longer available on tmdb, at least no longer available at the location they were at when MCM populated the .nfo.

E.g. Al Pacino https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w300_and_h45 ... vEhBsb.jpg

.nfo's created recently are fine, but the older they are the worse the situation.

I need to check if recreating the .nfo's fixes it, or if I need to entirely re-fetch the metadata. If it's the latter then I'm afraid that's a deal breaker for me.

Any ideas please?

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Mark W.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: May 20th, 2020, 5:45 am 
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Have just checked and to get actor thumbnails to show again, in MCM I need to unlock the metadata, clear it out, fetch it and save as other formats, then in KODI refresh it. Which apart from being a bind, would lose all the manual tweaks I've had to make for for online errors, incorrect artwork, foreign films etc.

IMHO this highlights the need to support a "local" on prem cache of actor thumbnails again (like it used to work way back when).

Am I correct in saying that MCM still does download actor thumbnails, just doesn't link to them in .nfos?

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Mark W.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: June 29th, 2020, 2:22 pm 
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Hello Peter,
You are removing a feature we all were depending upon.

Why is the option to safe actors tumbs to a common folder location still active if MCM doesn't write the tumbs in them anymore ?

You removed a feature many people loved and were using and were depênding their scripts upon.

Hope you can activate this again and let us choise between local folders or weblinks.

Always loved your product since the beginnning

Greetings,

Phill


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 Post subject: Re: Problem downloading actor thumbnails?
PostPosted: June 30th, 2020, 3:40 pm 
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Thumbnails are stll downloaded to the folder you specify in settings (at least for me it does).

However, as I posted back in January under Bug Report, the NFO does not write the local link in the NFO. It links to TMDB, although every once in a while it links to the local hard drive (very rare).

I've had to edit hundreds (maybe thousands) of links in the past 6 months so everything points to my local cache of thumbnails.


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